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Frequently Asked Questions about Icebergs
Keep in mind also that some items on this page may be out of date. Limited to icebergs B-15, B-16, B-17 and B-18. Not exhaustive. Most questions refer to B-15, the largest iceberg to form. To see images of the icebergs, visit http://amrc.ssec.wisc.edu/iceberg.html
How long will it take for Antarctica to replace this much ice?
What is the size and location of the icebergs? How old are they? What else do you know about them? Icebergs are operationally monitored by the National Ice Center here in the U.S. The Center has developed a system for naming them, and typically the research community has followed NIC's naming. Where is the iceberg that started all the buzz? B-15 stretches from about 165W to 177W and is in the eastern part of the Ross Ice Shelf, on the same side as Marie Byrd Land. What is the longitude and latitude of the portion of the Ross Ice Shelf that broke off? B-15 is centered on 78:22:22 South and 168:34:12 West. (This is in degrees, minutes and seconds.) Satellite imagery from April 3, 2000, taken at UTC 0950 showed the position to be 7816S 16227W. It is 51x15NM in size. What about the little bergs breaking from B-17? The National Ice Center, who names and tracks all Arctic and Antarctic icebergs, only labels and tracks icebergs that are greater than 10 nm (nautical miles) at the longest axis. The measurements from satellite are ~300 km by ~37 km or around 180 mi by 22 mi. About 1/3 of the ice front along the Ross Ice Shelf. About 80 to 90 percent is below the sea level, or below the water. Where is this "berg birthing site" located in relation to Shackelton's 1907 expedition base? If I have the correct location of his 1907 expedition, it is about 200 to 300 miles away. However, I'm not sure of the details of Shackleton's 1907 expedition. With regards to any land mass, the iceberg does not include any land mass. The ocean in that area is on the order of 1500 to 2000 feet. The ice is about 1300 feet below the water, and about 50 to 100 feet above the water. This ice is formed from snowfall on the continent that moves slowly off the sides of Antarctica, and out towards the sea. I am not sure of the exact age of the oldest ice. How deep do you think it goes? We have estimated, based on ships that went by some years ago, that it is about 50 to 100 feet above the water, and about 1400 feet below the water, about 1500 feet thick. What's the average thickness of B-15? B-15 is about 400 meters thick below the water, and about 30 meters above the water. Some variability may occur based on "other stuff" making up an iceberg—it isn't all snow, ice and water. There is glacial debrie embedded as well, sort of a "dirty" snow/ice. How much new water will be added to the oceans of the earth? The back of the envelope calculation shows that there is about 1,000 trillion gallons of water in this iceberg, but it’s not "new." It’s been in the hydrological cycle. The iceberg contains sufficient water to provide 5 inches of water for the agricultural land of the earth or about 0.5 inches on the land area of the earth. The ocean looks partially frozen above the iceberg, is this correct? That is the "annual" sea ice, that forms and melts every year. How old is the ice that comprises the iceberg? This ice is fairly old, on the order of 100s of years old. How much fresh water does this latest iceberg contain if it melted? More than 1000 trillion gallons of water. Do you think that this iceberg is the biggest one yet? This is close to being the biggest one yet, but one noted in 1956 is probably bigger. This iceberg broke from an ice shelf, which is a little different than most Arctic icebergs, I suspect. The very large image of the first NOAA-12 B-15 image does have a scale marker. With regards to its size against the California coast, it is the distance from LA to SAN LUIS OBISPO. How would it compare to the state of Ohio? It is nearly the entire length of the state along the lakeshore of Lake Erie (actually a bit longer than that). What's the life expectancy of B-15, the largest iceberg to have formed this season? It will last months to more likely years. How common is an iceberg, much less of this magnitude? Small bergs a few miles across are very common and we have a large one like 100 miles long about every 10 to 15 years. The last one to break off of the Ross Ice Shelf was in 1987 and was about 1/2 the size of this one How long will it take for Antarctica to replace this much ice? It will take 20 to 40 years to replace this much ice at the edge of Antarctica’s Ross Ice Shelf. In terms of size is this one unusual? How normal is this? Has there been a significant increase in the number and size of icebergs in recent years? In fact, global warming appears to not be responsible for this at this time. This is a naturally occuring event that we are seeing, although this is a one in 50 to 100 year event. Actually this part of Antarctica has not seen an iceberg of this magnitude in about that amount of time. So, we are due for this to occur. Perhaps if there are more of these, more often and of a similar size, then we can perhaps talk about why it is occurring. Actually, it isn't two big bergs—the other iceberg, B-10A, from this portion of Antarctic is much smaller than this. The Ross Ice Shelf was overdue to have this occur. We seem to be catching a one in 50-to-100-years event taking place. This will not have any effect on temperatures or sea levels at all. The Antarctic continent is 4000 meters or 13,120 feet high and contains 75 percent of the world's fresh water as ice. The ice is flowing from the highest point to the ocean but very slowly. The ice shelf responds to the tides in the area and twice each day it is lifted and sinks about a foot. This continuous flexing causes the ice shelf to break at a weak point decided by the ice shelf. If the ice did not flow off of Antarctica all the water in the oceans eventually would be deposited there. (Charles Stearns) What does calving mean, in regard to icebergs? Calving simply means that a piece of an ice sheet is breaking off. Is it true that B-15 crashed into B-16, B-17, B-18? B-15 and B-16 broke off the same day...but yes, B-15 "bumped" into the Ross Ice Shelf and created B-17 and B-18. B-18 started life as a piece of B-17. The last iceberg that broke off the Ross Ice Shelf was in 1987 and was about 1/2 the size of this one. It wandered to the west very slowly and eventualy moved north and around Cape Adare and continued west while it slowly melted. I expect this iceberg to follow the same track. I also expect it to break into two or three pieces. There are places in the Ross Sea that are shallow enough that the ice berg will hang up on them before getting to McMurdo Sound. Also Beaufort Island and Franklin Island are in the way. What becomes of the icebergs after they break off? After the icebergs break off, they start to move with the tides, the ocean currents, and minor effects from the wind and rotation of the earth. To see more, check out the movies at: http://amrc.ssec.wisc.edu/iceberg.html To learn more about its motion, please see: http://amrc.ssec.wisc.edu/iceberg.html Our best guess so far is that it will move to the west, and slowly at that. Douglas MacAyeal and his research group at the University of Chicago are modeling the movements of (B-15 especially)—taking satellite observations and working to numerically simulate on computer the motions of the iceberg. We know it will melt and break up but, because of its size, that will take time. It will float in the Ross Sea for some time—months to even years. The motion animations will be updated as the U.Chicago group gets more data. It won't move fast at all, and it will be affected by the sea ice (annual ice) in the area, as well as the tides, ocean currents, the rotation of the earth, and the wind. It will take months to see much progress. What is the projected path of floatation and at what latitude would you expect it to melt? The projected path is something my colleagues at the University of Chicago are working on as we speak. We suspect an initial westward movement, but it will move very slowly. When this iceberg breaks free, how far could it drift and how long will it last? It has broken free already, but it hasn't moved out of its "parking spot" yet (April 25, 2000). It could drift a fair distance, but it will be a very slow process, lasting months to more likely years. The icebergs are moving apart and out to sea. Are they heading for McMurdo Station? Getting all the way to McMurdo isn't realistic, but plugging up the outlet to the open ocean is. B-15 is ahead (west) of the smaller bergs (B-17, B-18 and others forming). McMurdo lies west of all the icebergs (except B-16). We don't know precisely what will happen, but possibly B-16 and B-18 will be moot. B-15 has a good chance to get in the way of shipping at McMurdo and B-17 could be a spoiler. We'll see. B-15 is still keeping B-17 in "check" for the moment (April 25, 2000). That slush does indeed affect the motion of the iceberg—it will act to slow its movement. However, it will not stop it from its general forward progression. What will the iceberg do? Will it cause harm? I'm not sure we will see any direct effects. This event is slow in unfolding as well—it will take months to years to melt this iceberg. Will it interfere with shipping or bump into land? It (B-15) has the potential to affect shipping to the Antarctic research station in the area, namely, McMurdo Station, Antarctica. It will be weeks or months before we find out if that is the case. If an iceberg of this size crashes into the continental U.S.A., will any destruction occur? Most likely, the only continent to be affected will be Antarctica, and perhaps its coast. Geophysicists at the University of Chicago are studying the iceberg motions. http://amrc.ssec.wisc.edu/iceberg.html When and if it strikes land is it big enough to jar the earth plates? If and when it does hit land, I don't think it will affect the earth's plates. (It will probably melt first.) No, this activity is a continuous part of the hydrological cycle. As the snow and ice accumulate on the Antarctic continent, it slowly flows off the continent, and calves off as icebergs. Probably none, certainly not in the short term and not at all directly. How will this affect the world? Actually, there will be, certainly for now, no serious world-wide consequences. This is a natural event. It actually does have the possibility of blocking the resupply route to McMurdo Station Antarctica, with this iceberg possibly wedging itself between the Ross Ice Shelf and the Victoria Land part of Antarctica. What kind of danger does this pose? I know, of course, shipping lanes, but what else? Not much else. In a few months to a year it may pose a threat to the shipping lanes that resupply and refuel McMurdo Station, but other than that there is no immediate threat. This iceberg did not make a wave of any sort when it broke off. Since the Ross Ice Shelf is already floating, it is more of a separation than a "falling." Is this thing likely to cause a tidal wave when it breaks away? This iceberg has been working its way towards breaking away for some time. It is a slow process and not very dramatic—no tidal wave will be created. This iceberg will have no effects on Earth’s rotation. There is no significant sea level rise related to this iceberg that we know of, as it is already floating in the water, and was before it broke away from the Ross Ice Shelf. Unfortunately, this iceberg will melt very, very slowly—over the course of months to years. The water this adds to the environment will be small enough not to have an impact on rainfall in the Great Lakes Basin. Other important factors will affect rainfall over the Great Lakes. What effects will the icebergs have as they get closer to warm waters and melt? Will water rise enough to endanger shorelines and coastal regions, at least in the area it is in? Will this iceberg raise the level of the oceans? If so, by how much? Since it is already floating in the ocean, it will not add to the sea level, even if it did melt overnight. Actually, this iceberg is not expected to cause any significant sea level rises at all. The iceberg is already floating in the ocean, and actually it was already doing that when it was a part of the Ross Ice Shelf before it broke away. Iceberg B-15 is going to melt very, very slowly, over many months to years. In fact, icebergs of this size may be around for years. So, with such a long time to melt, it will not have a big impact on sea level. The effects are not dramatic, other than that the Ross Ice Shelf is now about 37 km further south than it used to be! The iceberg(s) will have little effect on sea level. In the area it is in, an iceberg will have an effect. Initially, the greatest effect is that the Ross Ice Shelf just got moved back about 22 miles to the south! Next, as the iceberg moves out of its "parking spot," it will start to bump along the coast as it goes. That action my have some effects. I don't know how dramatic yet, but it will do something. It may completely melt away, and if it does, it will take months to more likely years for this to occur. There is also a chance that it will affect more commercial waters, but we really won't know if it will for months to years to come. An iceberg of this size will be slow moving initially, so it isn't easy to know for sure its future affects with regards to lifetime or more northerly shipping effects. The iceberg is in the water. Actually, no iceberg that I know of will displace water or cause flooding in coastal regions of the Pacific Northwest. Can we use the icebergs for fresh drinking water? This iceberg is just going to melt, and go into the ocean, anyway, so we should use it by covering it in insulating bubble wrap, towing it up the Mississippi river, and using it for irrigation water in the Midwest, which needs some water this year. While this may seem like a good idea, it’s pretty impractical due to its size. What could we do to relocate it to say, Saudi Arabia? The iceberg has broken off, but due to its size, location, other natural obstacles, and limited abilities compared to nature, it is unlikely for humans to be able to move such a berg to Saudi Arabia. Such a large berg cannot be moved with our current capabilities. It’s almost the size of Long Island. I'm unaware of what could be on the iceberg. I'm sure there are whales (orca) in the area. I am not aware of any seal colonies or penguin rookeries in this part of Antarctica (since much smaller icebergs often form here). If there were any wildlife on the iceberg, they may not have noticed this, since the iceberg has been slowly breaking away, and only recently definitively broken away. The iceberg will float away very, very slowly taking weeks to move a few miles. Since this iceberg is such a slow mover, wildlife will be able to adjust before any of that happens. Does anybody keep track of size and movement of icebergs? Does anyone plot the total surface area (i.e., square miles) over time of the icebergs "calving" off Antarctica, or (even better) the total cubic area (i.e. cubic miles) over time. The National Ice Center is the closest to having a mission that does that. (www.natice.noaa.gov). What caused the iceberg to break off? Was there an earthquake or what caused the fissure? There is no known earthquake that I know of. Was there a known river of ice coinciding with the fissures path? The fissure has been slowly developing over years. I do not know of any river connected to it. The primary factor in iceberg generation is that it is a part of the hydrological cycle. Snow (and not that much) falls on the steep and high continent of Antarctica. This snow doesn't melt much, and forms a thick ice cap (up to 3 km thick in places) that moves about a half a mile a year towards the sea, and breaks off icebergs. What sort of environmental implications does this have? The Reuters report of the new iceberg was incorrectly linked to global warming. This is actually a naturally occurring event that is overdue to take place. The new icebergs were broken off by the big iceberg B-15 that broke off in mid-March. As it turns out, this event is not global warming related, rather this is a natural progression, a part of the hydrological cycle. This is a one in 50 to 100 year event, and it has been about that long since we've seen a berg of this size. Regarding ocean levels, it should not have any significant effect that we know of. As for wildlife, there is not much in the way of wildlife in the area. The movements of the iceberg should be slow enough for any wildlife to react to it. Short answer: No, this is not a signal of global change. No, the ice shelf is not breaking up. No, we can't tell what will happen next (whether there will be more frequent calvings.) This iceberg will have no effect on global warming. This is a natural part of the hydrological cycle. This part of Antarctica breaks off an iceberg this size every 50 to 100 years. The last large iceberg was seen in 1956, so we’re about due. Iceberg calving of this massive scale, if it occurs more frequently than what is required by the status quo (i.e., once every 50 to 100 years), would indeed be a sign of "global change", and could indeed be a response to environmental change in the Antarctic. Our limited experience with iceberg calving (it has occurred rather infrequently, as it should, over the history of satellite imaging—the primary means of seeing icebergs) cannot tell us one way or another whether there will be more calving like this one in the near future that is part of a global-change scenario.(Douglas MacAyeal) What could occur should this phenomenon continually occur? This is a natural process. If it occurs more often, with equal or bigger icebergs, perhaps then we can say more about what is causing this that isn't the natural part of the hydrological cycle, which is for snow to fall over Antarctica, and the continually forming icecap to slowly increase, move out to sea, and calve off icebergs. I have not been researching the temperature of the deep parts of the ocean. Unfortunately the announcement of the iceberg was made on the same day some unrelated oceanographic research was being announced. Some media reports linked the two, and they in fact are not related. Actually, this iceberg will not have any significant effect on the rotation or orientation of the Earth's axis. At this time, this iceberg does not pose any global warming implications or effects on the earth's rotational axis. This is a natural event that this part of Antarctic is due to have occur. Do these icebergs in any way represent a rise in ocean height or change any weather patterns? They actually do not represent any rises in sea level or changes in weather patterns, that we know of. Does what you wrote about Antarctica hold for the Arctic? The Arctic situation may be different. I have not studied it close enough to comment. From what I know it is different, and more observations have been made over the last several years to back up what is being researched there. Is the polar icecap breaking up? Will it have an effect on the world's weather? The new icebergs (B-17, B-18, others as they form) simply show that the big iceberg that broke away before most likely is causing the new icebergs. Think of it as couple of parallel parked cars with the car in the middle bumping into the car behind it. The whole polar icecap isn't breaking up, and this event shouldn't affect the world's weather greatly. What will happen or is happening to the icebergs? Based on other icebergs, scientists think that the iceberg may eventually break in half (as did A-38), but probably not for several weeks and not until the iceberg moves about 50 km to the west along the ice front. At the end of March it was still "jiggling around in its parking spot." Yes, the little iceberg, known as B-16, broke off at the same time as the big B-15 iceberg. When will the big iceberg, B-15, break up? Scientists think it will certainly break up but are not sure when. A New Zealand scientist said, "B9 took 22 months if you discount that piece of thin shelf starting life as multiyear fast ice at its eastern end. B9 was generally thicker but had a big N-S rift in it (Kainan Bay). B-15 is 100-350m thick with an unsustainable length -width ratio but it may stay side on to the swell for a while yet and these will be dampened by the forming pack." The long shape of the big one, B-15, may in fact lead to it breaking in half. We are not exactly sure, but that is what colleagues at the University of Chicago are numerically simulating. Do we think the Ross ice shelf is breaking up? The Ross Ice Shelf must calve an iceberg of this size every 50 to 100 years to maintain its ice-front location at approximately the present place. (Douglas MacAyeal) I recommend contacting the National Ice Center (www.natice.noaa.gov), for answers to your questions. They specialize in tracking icebergs. From work with the research group at the University of Chicago, I do know that tides and ocean currents are primary influences on the iceberg's motion, with the rotation of the Earth and the wind playing secondary roles. Does the size of this iceberg offer any unique research opportunities? This iceberg does offer unique research opportunities—our colleagues at the University of Chicago are researching more about what does control the motions of the iceberg once they do break off. We have a chance to learn a great deal from this event. Did scientists know this would happen? New Zealand scientists say that some rifts around 170W, the middle of B-15, have been there for at least ten years. And they say that iceberg B9 was "mostly delineated by rifts for at least 16 years before it calved." They say there does not seem to be anything unusual about the quantity or orientation of rifting. They wonder if an abrupt change in ice thickness at 177-178W at the western side of the thin area between 171-177 (warm current/basal melting effect) could have influenced calving dynamics there. But they say that this thin area appears to have been around all this century, so is not unusual. How is the University of WI involved? Are other universities/researchers following its movement? The University of Wisconsin is involved because I have grants to the university from the National Science Foundation Office of Polar Programs for automatic weather stations and for Antarctic data distributions to others. The University of Chicago is also involved. There is more to the question than this, I suspect. Trends are important. They do give us clues, but they do have limited power in predicting, especially if the system is changing. The science community has only been monitoring icebergs for about 35 years. I'm sure there will be continuing work on this problem over the years. Ice packs are sensitive to climate change, but I have not studied them enough to comment further on. There are ongoing research projects, such as the West Antarctic Ice Sheet project trying to learn more about these very issues. With regards to your final questions/comments, the best I can offer is that the research community would like to research this iceberg to learn more. Funding for worthwhile research is always needed. How do you monitor the icebergs from Wisconsin? If you’re in the U.S., you find an iceberg by looking at data from satellites. We use computers that communicate with satellites, and via the Internet. What satellites do you use and why? The polar orbiting satellites (the ones that fly overhead) are the NOAA and DMSP satellites. The DMSP satellite is run by the Air Force who makes the data available to researchers. I use both to track and observe the icebergs. Both sets of satellites are U.S. owned and operated. GOES (US), METEOSAT (Europe), and GMS (Japan) are the geostationary satellites. They are great for observing the full disk of the Earth, but not the best near the poles. We combine imagery from all of the satellites to make a composite, or mosaic, image over the Antarctic and Southern Ocean (including all of New Zealand). The composite is a specialty of the AMRC. The satellite is NOAA-12 (the first of the images most widely in circulation). Is it the first time that a satellite has observed an iceberg peeling off an ice shelf? No, this isn't the first time that satellites have been used to monitor icebergs. I do not know how close to the actual break of an iceberg satellite images have been able to show in the past. The National Ice Center in the U.S. (www.natice.noaa.gov) monitors these sort of things on a routine basis. What’s the value of satellite imagery in observing the iceberg? Satellite imagery, particularly from polar-orbiting satellites, and especially when skies are clear of clouds, make it possible to spot big icebergs as they form. Cracks in the ice are only clearly visible from the air. Satellites give a point of view available no other way. How do scientists look for icebergs in satellite imagery? In each new image as it comes in, a researcher will look for the cracks and rifts that are likely candidates for any new bergs. It is important to also look at places where the unexpected could happen (that's why B15 was probably missed, nobody "expected" it). Are other sites monitoring the weather stations and icebergs that appear on your Web page? We are not aware of anyone at this time who is currently providing similar capabilities. Are you permanently monitoring this area? The AMRC monitors this area frequently as well as some on the other side of Antarctica near the Ronne Ice Shelf (see http://amrc.ssec.wisc.edu/iceberg.html). It was a hobby, until we crossed paths with Doug MacAyeal at the University of Chicago, who is studying the motions of icebergs. We hope that our satellite observations will help his computer simulations. The National Ice Center here in the US (www.natice.noaa.gov); has the responsibility for operationally monitoring icebergs around the world. Will we be able to watch this iceberg float away? We do plan to follow the iceberg, and post updates to our Web site http://amrc.ssec.wisc.edu/iceberg.html. We hope to continue to do so as long as our project continues to be funded to do so. How high does a polar-orbiting satellite orbit? About 800 km (~500 miles) above the earth. Why do some of the iceberg images look upside down? And sometime backwards? One set of satellite images is ingested in reverse. Remapping the image to the normal view detracts from the quality of the image. The navigation parameters we must use in McIDAS actually predict the parameters three days in the future. If our navigation model is not the same (which is the case) as the model used to compute the navigation parameters for 3 days in the future, errors begin to creep in. A slight difference in viewing angle between satellite images also distorts the shape of things. Remapping can fix this just so much. We attempt to post images as we can, working around daily duties, and when the clouds do not obscure the icebergs. How was the iceberg discovered? Who discovered the icebergs? How? Forecasters at McMurdo Station in Antarctica discovered B-15 and B-16 by looking at satellite imagery. When did your research center discover the broken-apart phase of the iceberg? Who discovered B-15? We were alerted to this iceberg by colleagues at the University of Chicago who are studying iceberg motions with us. They were informed by the National Science Foundation here in the US who oversee the US Antarctic Program. They were notified by the folks at McMurdo Station Antarctica, the main US station in Antarctica, in a weekly report to NSF. The weather forecasters at McMurdo were the first folks to notice this. Where can I learn more about icebergs? And other unanswered questions Aside from the images posted to http://amrc.ssec.wisc.edu/iceberg.html, you could check the National Ice Center. They are tasked with operationally monitoring icebergs around the world. You can reach them at: (www.natice.noaa.gov) Where can I find out more about the Ross Ice Shelf? "The Recent Advance of the Ross Ice Shelf, Antarctica" by S. Jacobs, D. MacAyeal and J. Ardai, Journal of Glaciology, Vol 32, No. 112, page 464-474. This paper suggests that from 1965 to 1985, "calving" from the Ross Ice Shelf was abnormally low (to nonexistent)... what we're seeing now might be the event which "makes up for" the quite times of the late 1900's. What media have covered the icebergs? See In The News for April 2000. What do you see as this event’s significance? No, it’s a normal occurrence. Every 50-100 years a big berg breaks off the Ross Ice Shelf, to maintain the hydrological balance. This event is important because, with satellite imagery, we now have the opportunity to observe what happens, and learn about it. The iceberg answers are based primarily on research by Douglas MacAyeal, U.Chicago and observations of Matthew Lazzara, Charles Stearns (P.I.) and others of UW-Madison’s Antarctic Meteorological Research Center.
This material is based upon work supported by the National Science Foundation under Grants Nos. OPP-0537827, OPP-0338147, and OPP-0230028. Any opinions, findings, and conclusions or recommendations expressed in this material are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the view of the National Science Foundation. |